Peter Vecsey Goes “N The Zone”

In this 2-part interview, Peter Vecsey, long-time sports columnist of the NY Post joins “N The Zone” and shows off his rap skills.

In Part 1, he talks about his career and how he got the analyst job on the “NBA on NBC.” Plus gives a colorful story on his relationship with Pat Riley while on NBC and when he coached the Lakers, Knicks and Heat.

In Part 2, with Peter Vecsey as he talks about his unfiltered thoughts about Phil Jackson and the New York Knicks. Also, a impromptu with Michael Jordan on Jackson’s and Tex Winter’s triangle offense. Along with his thoughts on the if Cavs-Warriors for a third time, is good for the NBA.

NOTE: The following segments contain language that some may find objectionable. Parental discretion is advised.

N The Zone – Peter Vecsey (Part 1) 05-21-17

N The Zone – Peter Vecsey (Part 2) 05-21-17

2017 NBA Combine: Measurements vs. College Listings

Shane Gray (@RealShaneGray)

Earlier this month, the NBA held its annual Draft Combine, where dozens of NBA hopefuls and representatives of all 30 NBA teams gathered for player interviews, athletic and strength tests, 5 on 5 scrimmages and, yes — official length and height measurements.

For decades, fans have taken interest in discovering just how tall some of the NCAA’s biggest stars actually were/are. Some of the measurements over the years have been eye-opening and — in some cases — hurt a prospects draft stock.

Way back in 1992, Oklahoma State stud Byron Houston — a collegiate All-American who was listed at 6’7″ with the Cowboys — measured just 6’4″ barefoot at the Combine, putting him closer to 6’5″ in shoes than his supposed 6’7″.

More recently, Kansas State standout Michael Beasley — who was billed at 6’10” in college and has continued to be listed at 6’10” at his various NBA stops — measured just 6’7″ in socks and 6’8″ 1/4 with shoes at the 2008 Combine.

As you can guess, some teams showed diminished interest in Houston and Beasley after their measurements. For Houston, who primarily played the post, 6’5″ in shoes wasn’t nearly as attractive as 6’7″. For Beasley, a classic tweener who can play a little at both the three and the four, his 6’8″ in- shoes measurement wasn’t as appealing to some clubs as a 6’10” measurement would have been.

At this year’s combine, as has long been the case, many of the players came up significantly shorter than advertised. I took the time to compare every prospect measured at the Combine to their college listing, checking at least two to three sources to ensure accuracy. Here are the results — first as a group and then individually.

Of 66 players measured both with and without shoes early in day when people are significantly taller (1/3 inch to 3/4 inch+ in some cases than afternoon/evening due to spinal compression), here are the results of the NO SHOES measurements:

-13 of 66 prospects (19.6%) measured 2 to 2.5 inches below their listed college height.
-29 of 66 players (43.9%) measured 1.75 to 2.5 inches below listed college height.
-41 of 66 prospects (62.1%) measured 1.5 to 2.5 inches below listed college height.
-50 of 66 players (75.7%) measured 1.25 to 2.5 inches below listed college height.
-59 of 66 players (89.3%) measured 1 to 2.5 inches below listed college height.
-62 of 66 prospects (93.9%) measured .75 to 2.5 inches below listed college height.
-65 of 66 players (98.4%) measured .5 to 2.5 inches below listed college height.
-1 of 66 players (1.5%) measured same height as listed college height.

In terms of IN SHOE measurements — players play in shoes, after all, and thus in-shoe measurements are completely valid and appropriate — just 25 of 66 measured as tall as their listed college height. Even with shoes on, 41 of 66 were shorter than their listed college height.

Individually, the results were as follows:

Player                     No Shoes     In Shoes      College Listing  College
Jonathon Jeanne   7’0 3/4″         7’2″                 7’2″                       France
Thomas Welsh      6’11 1/2″        7’0 1/2″          7’0″                       UCLA
Omer Yurtseven   6’10 1/2″        6’11 3/4″       7’0″                       N.C. State
Zach Collins           6’10 1/4″        7’0″               7’0″                       Gonzaga
Justin Patton          6’10”              6’11 1/4″       7’0″                      Creighton
Moritz Wagner      6’10”              6’11 1/4″       6’11”                    Michigan
Thomas Bryant      6’9 1/2″         6’10 3/4″      6’10”                     Indiana
Tony Bradley          6’9 1/4″         6’10” 3/4″     6’11”                     UNC
Harry Giles             6’9 1/4″         6’10” 1/2″     6’10 & 6’11”         Duke
Jarrett Allen           6’9″                6’10 1/4″      6’11”                     Texas
Bam Adebayo        6’8 3/4″          6’9 3/4″        6’10”                     Kentucky
TJ Leaf                     6’8 3/4″         6’9 3/4″         6’10”                     UCLA
Kennedy Meeks     6’8 3/4″         6’10 1/4″       6’10”                     UNC
Ivan Rabb               6’8 3/4″         6’10”              6’11”                    California
DJ Wilson                6’8 3/4″         6’10 1/2″       6’10”                    Michigan
Ike Anigbogu          6’8 1/2″         6’9 3/4″         6’10”                    UCLA
Eric Mica                 6’8 1/2″         6’9 1/4″         6’10”                    BYU
John Collins            6’8 1/4″         6’9 1/2″         6’10”                    Wake Forest
Tyler Lydon            6’8 1/4″         6’9 1/2″         6’9″                      Syracuse
Chris Boucher        6’8″                6’9 1/2″         6’10”                    Oregon
Kyle Kuzma            6’8″                6’9 1/2″         6’9″                      Utah
Jonathan Motley    6’7 3/4″         6’8″ 3/4″        6’10”                   Baylor
Caleb Swanigan     6’7 1/2″         6’8 1/2″          6’9″                     Purdue
Isaiah Hicks            6’7 1/4″         6’8 1/2″          6’9″                     UNC
Alec Peters              6’7 1/4           6’8 3/4″         6’9″                     Valparaiso
Jordan Bell             6’7″                6’8 1/2″         6’9″                      Oregon
Justin Jackson        6’7″                6’8 1/4″         6’8″                      UNC
Cameron Oliver     6’7″                6’8 1/4″         6’8″                     Nevada
Devin Robinson     6’7″                6’8 1/4″         6’8″                     Florida
Svi Mykhailiuk      6’6 1/2            6’7 1/2″         6’8″                    Kansas
OG Anunoby           6’6 1/4″          6’7 3/4″         6’8″                    Indiana
V.T. Beachem          6’6 1/4″          6’8″                6’8″                    Notre Dame
Nigel Hayes            6’6 1/4″          6’7 1/2″          6’8″                    Wisconsin
Jaron Blossomgame 6’5 3/4″      6’6 3/4″          6’7″                    Clemson
Justin Jackson        6’5 3/4″         6’7″                 6’7″                    Maryland
Jamel Artis             6’5 1/2″         6’6 3/4″           6’7″                    Pittsburgh
Terrance Ferguson 6’5 1/2″       6’7″                 6’7″                    Abelaine 36ers (pro)
Wesley Iwundu     6’5 1/2″         6’6 3/4″           6’7″                    Kansas State
P.J. Dozier               6’5 1/4″         6’6 3/4″           6’6″                    South Carolina
Semi Ojeleye          6’5 1/4″         6’6″                 6’7″                    SMU
Dillon Brooks         6’5″               6’6″                 6’7″                    Oregon
Dwayne Bacon      6’4 3/4″         6’6 1/4″           6’7″                    Florida State
Damyean Dotson  6’4 1/2″         6’5 1/2″           6’5″                    Houston
Luke Kennard        6’4 1/2″        6’5 1/2″           6’6″                    Duke
Davon Reed            6’4 1/2″        6’5 1/2″           6’6″                    Miami
Peter Jok                 6’4 1/2″         6’5 3/4″          6’6″                     Iowa
Edmond Sumner   6’4″               6’5 3/4″          6’6″                     Xavier
Hamidou Diallo     6’3 3/4″         6’5″                6’5″                     Kentucky
Josh Hart                 6’3 3/4″         6’5″                6’5 1/2″              Villanova
Sindarius Thornwell 6’3 1/2″     6’4 3/4″         6’5″                    South Carolina
Kobi Simmons        6’3 1/4″         6’4 1/2″         6’5″                    Arizona
Derrick White        6’3 1/4″          6’4 1/2″         6’5″                    Colorado
Tyler Dorsey           6’3″                6’4 1/2″         6’4″                    Oregon
Andrew Jones         6’3″                6’4 1/4″         6’4″                    Texas
Rawle Alkins          6’2 1/2″          6’3 3/4″         6’5″                    Arizona
De’ Aaron Fox        6’2″                 6’3 1/4″         6’3″                    Kentucky
Frank Jackson        6’2                  6’3 1/2″         6’3″                    Duke
Nigel Williams-Goss 6’1 1/2″       6’3″               6’3″                    Gonzaga
Isaiah Briscoe        6’1 1/4″           6’2 3/4″        6’3″                     Kentucky
Donovan Mitchell  6’1 1/4″          6’3″               6’3″                    Louisville
Monte Morris         6’1 1/4″           6’2 1/2″        6’3″                    Iowa State
Melo Trimble         6’1 1/4″           6’2 1/2″        6’3″                    Maryland
Kadeem Allen        6’1″                 6’2 3/4″         6’3″                    Arizona
Frank Mason         5’11”                6’0″               5’11”                  Kansas
Derrick Walton     5’11”                6’0 3/4″         6’1″                   Michigan
Jawun Evans         5’10 3/4″          5’11 1/2″       6’1″                  Oklahoma State

The View From Mt. Airy – NBA Draft Preview 2016

Ben Simmons, potential #1 overall pick
Ben Simmons, potential #1 overall pick

@MtAiryPhil

PHILADELPHIA, PA

IT’S DRAFT NIGHT!

The most heated draft in recent NBA history is now a few hours away. If you know Phil at all, than you must know already I like it new and shiny, whether right or wrong or even in working order. This NBA draft gives me all that and more and this final few hours will be my Ritalin, my Adderall acquired suspiciously from a former BALCO operative.

What’s not to love?

You’ve got LeBron James Jr. in Ben Simmons.

The Phenom.

Questions?

Yup.

How much did he care as me-marked time at LSU waiting for his NBA destiny? Why couldn’t he accomplish at least a visit to the NCAA tournament if he’s truly the “next big thing?”

Projected at #2 is Brandon Ingram out of the storied program of the man who invented basketball, as he’d have the world believe. For me the Ingram choice goes beyond talent and directly to his alma mater. I’ll wait as you make a list of the great NBA players from Duke taken in the first round. You should be finished. However, if we assign the same quiz to the “bust” container then pack a lunch. May not scare you, but I believe an NBA GM has to have a moment of pause as he ponders precedent with the value of the 2nd overall. Ultimately the pick by the Lakers will be Mr. Ingram, barring a bone jarring trade by the 76ers.

Trade? Yup.

According to my Sixers’ source, despite their open declaration Tuesday that they would be selecting Simmons with the 1st overall pick, there is a scenario brewing where Philadelphia (who own six 1st round picks over the next 2 drafts) are being courted by multiple teams. These deals all involve the 76ers ending up with 2 of the first 5 selections tonight. Sixers will not, if they acquired the 2nd of two first fives, select Simmons. The whispers in my ear say they would select Ingram 1 and either Kris Dunn or Buddy Hield depending on how high the second pick is. The preference obviously would be Dunn and that trade partner would have to be the Celtics, who openly covet Jahlil Okafor yet seem to on the verge of sending that pick to Utah.

That enough intrigue for you? I got more. There are some x factors in the top of the draft that will make for scintillating, cell phone ringing, Twitter exploding moments. Who is really the 3rd pick? My heart screams Jaylen Brown as the default 3rd. Yet many NBA scouts believe there is not a possibility Dunn goes beyond three. Phoenix takes Brown without hesitation and tier 1 of the 2016 NBA DRAFT is complete.

Buddy Hield kicks off tier-2. After his selection you got to own a crystal ball. Exactly why today will be an amazing run of NBA TV. There will be exactly zero moments that allow for an exhale. Who drafts the man child Thon Maker? What top ten projections will slide precipitously out of the lottery and into the green room of misery? Who wears the most outlandish suit/outfit? What player will we ignore in the bottom ten of round 1 who becomes Paul George or the emergent beast for whom simplicity demands I identify simply as “the freak?” Denzel Valentine scares me and I want it on record. Taurean Prince too. Both will be drafted tonight in round 1.

Tier 3 seems simple. Dragan Bender seems slightly overvalued to me. Those who profess to know have him in their first 5 but I don’t see a fit. Most likely he belongs at 8 to Sacramento and he well should. Tier three will also feature the Celtics taking over the draft with 4 of the first 31 selections barring a trade. One of those picks will be an enigmatic Skal Labissiere who seems to grow in stature despite a resume that belies this late love. Finally, what does the Hawks trade of Jeff Teague do to tier 3 as they also own pick 21 and this is why tonight will be “Must See TV.”

Finally, what makes the NBA DRAFT 2016 the spectacle I truly believe it will be is that, by the time you read this, things will have changed. Again.

N The Zone promises to have a full recap and breakdown of NBA Draft 2016 online and on air. Stay tuned.

The A-Train Rant Special…RIP L-Mo

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Now I don’t do this much but today is a special case in my heart. In my own words.

Today my cousin Lamont Williams would have been 30 today. He was my friend and definitely my brother from another mother.

Exactly 4 months from this date, it will be 4 years that he left this earth.

One of the best things about him was his skills in basketball. He loved the game and wanted to be the best. I remember playing him in the backyard where at first he was a rebounder. He was like Dennis Rodman. He didn’t do a lot of scoring when we played team ball but he would fight and “grab that board.” As he got older, his skills got better. When we were in middle school, I would beat him in the backyard. When we got to high school, he destroyed me. His game was so much better than mine; so much better that he made the varsity team at Lindbergh. I was so proud of him making the squad. I was even more proud of him when he made the local paper. Basketball was his thing, whether playing it or discussing it…he loved it and he lived it. That basketball was everywhere with him. I can remember his favorite team was the Los Angeles Lakers and he told me that he was hurt back in 2008 (when they lost to Boston) and happy for them in 2009.

In the summer of 2010, I seen him in the hospital…and I didn’t like seeing him there…but he was watching the NBA Finals between the Lakers and Boston. He was so hoping for the Lakers to get their revenge on Boston. If you saw the series, they did. It was one of the final times he would catch a basketball game as his illness got worse.

It was so weird seeing him in this fashion. How could a young man who (in my opinion) could do no wrong, go through such an illness? He didn’t deserve it, his wife didn’t, his family didn’t either. WHY HIM? I would say. I’m not saying my cousin was perfect but he did what he could to keep from being into trouble. He was on the verge of doing good things such as being a talented musician. Along from his basketball, he loved making beats. He was working hard on them. When I started doing radio, he was going to do my music for the show. It never came to pass, as work got in the way and his illness literally slowed him down.

On December 3rd, 2010, he breathed his last breath, and he closed his eyes and never opened them again. I broke down. I couldn’t believe he was actually gone. I regret not being there for him as much I should have. He was going to be my best man when I got married. We were going to work on some projects together. The Good Lord called him home instead. I miss him greatly. One thing I can never take away from him was his gifts…in music and in basketball.

I love you, man. Keep resting, L-Mo.

The A-Train

RIP Lamont Williams: August 3, 1984 – December 3, 2010

The A-Train Rant 18.0!!!

 

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Time for another edition of The A-Train Rant…

  1. I want to first say thank you to the people at Fox and MLB for completely dropping the ball during the All-Star Game. No mention of Tony Gwynn at all. I understand everything was meant for Derek Jeter but hell, give credit to one of the greatest hitters our generation has ever seen. Damn sure didn’t help when Ken Rosenthal tried to explain the situation later.
  2. I wonder why Erin Andrews got the NFL on Fox gig over the now departed Pam Oliver. Was it hair? Race? (No, not the race card) I see why the people at WEEI went completely in on her. It wasn’t right to say but hey, I didn’t make the comments.
  3. The MLB All-Star Game is ALL Bud Selig’s fault…he made an exhibition too serious. (Was slated in my rant about the All-Star game)
  4. The Los Angeles Lakers are not going anywhere next season. Great job adding Carlos Boozer (laughs)
  5. July 17th was the worst day this year for sports…they weren’t any. If you want to count golf, cricket and the WNBA, go right ahead.
  6. The Miami Heat have a better chance to win the East over the Miami Cavaliers (aka Cleveland).
  7. Adam Wainwright should learn to keep his mouth shut.
  8. Kevin Love is not going anywhere.
  9. Derek Jeter is hated so much…Deadspin went this far.
  10. Kevin Durant is going to Washington in 2 seasons.
  11. Stuart Scott is the greatest. Just watch his ESPYs speech.
  12. Shoutout to Dr. J, straight chin-checking Stephen A. Smith on First Take.
  13. When does football season start?

More to come.

The A-Train